Posted by AvionicKnight on 09/15/98 21:39:54:
In Reply to: Storyline..hello wake up posted by BlueStar on 09/15/98 16:58:48:
I don't see the need TOO change the RTS genre. When I think of Dark Reign, I just think of a game which is the same with a load of "optional" micromanagement features. The future of the genre, I think, may lie in different perspectives.
Like Sid Meier's Gettysburg! and Myth. Both are Real time strategy games-- Gettysburg! a bit more of a wargame-- but are generally very different in play then Dune 2.
The reason I endorse the SC storyline, is after playing TA, I would like =ANY= storyline. What its not THAT bad, it was sorta like War 2 in that presentation, except War 2 was one of the first RTS games I played== after Dune 2, C&C, and War 1 of course. Anywaz, Myth and Gettysburg! put the rts genre into new perspective. Gone is the resource management, and more strategy is in positioning your formations, choosing your columns, unlimbering your guns, and marching against the Confederates in Real time. Myth essentially looks like an easy to win game where you simply, with no strategy, march your units against the enemy. Boy, is that logic wrong. Formations are important again, the 3D landscape is great, and there's so much unbelievable strategy in fighting with a predetermined number of troops-- a lot more then might obviously seem.
But SC, etc., indeed don't add much to the genre at all. But I DO think it seems like a complete game, one of the most complete RTS's I've seen. Maybe I'm the only one.
: I can't believe anybody here is comparing the storylines like Starcraft and C&C to Dune...this is like comparing my $5 model airplane to the space shuttle !!!! yes they both fly but there is a big !@#$#%%% difference....O.K. I'm not a multi-player type of guy...which most rts offer their fans....the better the multi-play the better the game..I only like multi-play in games where people can't abuse the game and cheat like chess and other turn-based strategic games that require thought instead of who can move and click the mouse faster...anybody who compares Dune's storyline to Starcraft has not read any dune books or needs to re-read them for you have been brain-drained by all the stupid media hype of how "great" starcraft's storyline was....I felt parts of SC were funny and entertaining at times but in the end it really did feel like warcraft all over again with two new races...
: I eventually grew bored of warcraft also and didn't wan't to play pretty much the same game so i returned it..In the beginning there was no multi-player so they had to captivate you with a good @#$%% game...now they say I know the game sucks but it rocks in multi-player ...so what!!! I like to play games pretty much the same reason i like to read books it takes me somewhere different for a while and i can experience however unrealistically (a little suspension of reallity is in order) fantastical and interesting alternate reality...
: Like i have said before Dune2 for its time was a great game because the game engine was designed for that game only not like SC and C&C and DR which borrowed a game engine slapped a half-baked story and walaaa a new grond breaking game....innovation ha! unique ha! suspenseful ha! surprising Ha! look here is a list of games that are worth your money....CIV2, X-com UFO defense, any RPG game not from the 90's except M&M6 and Fallout and the Ultima and Wizardry series...Dune2000 i will buy because I love F.Herbert and Dune2 was a great game and if I don't like it i will keep it as a collector's item.....I don't like to be so overly critical but I'm an old (30) and experienced gamer and the new games coming out are n=very repetitive and boring and nobody complains or demands something better so here we are six years later and the only improvement to rts games in six years are FMV and a few interface improvements...thats pretty impressive right ???? shove those games up your @##$ i'm getting Dune2000 this afternoon, drink a six-pack (after I put my son to bed)kick some Harkonnen butt for a while then a little commando action will be in order...actually a new game thats a liitle different..later guys
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